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    Savage Edge .308 vs Thompson Center Venture .223 -- input?

    One of those two will be my next rifle, because I like bolt actions and want one in one of those two calibers, and I'm having a heck of a time deciding.

    Savage Edge feels much better to me in terms of fit, feels cheaper though perfectly adequate in terms of material. It's also markedly lighter. I didn't get a chance to try the bolt or trigger, so can't comment on those, yet.

    Thompson Center is heavier, and feels higher quality. It doesn't fit me quite as well, but still feels great to me. Trigger is a frigging dream, and is user adjustable. The bolt is short throw, but very stiff and heavy during the "$#@!ing" phase.

    Savage = $267, Thompson = $500. That means I could get the Savage and a decent scope for the price of the Thompson alone.

    In addition to trying to decide which rifle, I also need to decide which caliber. The guns I looked at were as listed above: Savage Edge .308, Thompson Venture in .223. I could, of course, get either gun in either caliber.

    .308 = more oomph, more range, heavier ammo, way more expensive. .223 = lighter, more pleasant recoil, Which may be a factor for Cathy. I'm not sure how she'd react to a fairly light .308. She enjoyed the SKS, but the .308 has a bit more oomph. Ammo is lighter, way cheaper to shoot. To the tune of being able to shoot as much as 3 times as much for the same money as I could with .308. I do not necessarily always have the time to reload for rifles and pistols, and shoot pistols way more, so being able to find some cheapo plinking ammo is a consideration. Not to mention, when I eventually get an AR, it may be nice to only need to buy one kind of ammo. Or, it might be handy to have some versatility, in case I can find one or the other, but not both. Purpose for the guns would mostly be fun informal target shooting, with an eye to SHTF uses. Hunting use is some consideration, but since I can't use either one for deer in Indiana, not a major one. The .308 does, though, give me the ability to hunt pretty much anything on the continent if the opportunity arises.

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    I think it was Ron Burgandy who said it best....

    “.308, because sometimes people hide behind stuff"
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    I haven't shot a Savage edge in .308, but I have fondled them quite a few times. Seems like the recoil would be a concern. Like you said, it's a bit on the light side but still seems well built. I would say on a budget, try out the Savage Edge .223. Less recoil, half the price as the TC, and ammo is also half the price. If I were going with a .308, I would want to spend a bit more on a 700 or a savage model 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovatron View Post
    I haven't shot a Savage edge in .308, but I have fondled them quite a few times. Seems like the recoil would be a concern. Like you said, it's a bit on the light side but still seems well built. I would say on a budget, try out the Savage Edge .223. Less recoil, half the price as the TC, and ammo is also half the price. If I were going with a .308, I would want to spend a bit more on a 700 or a savage model 10.
    excellent advice!

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    I can attest that the Edge is a great rifle for the money. I bought a new scope for mine, and am very pleased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groovatron View Post
    I haven't shot a Savage edge in .308, but I have fondled them quite a few times. Seems like the recoil would be a concern. Like you said, it's a bit on the light side but still seems well built. I would say on a budget, try out the Savage Edge .223. Less recoil, half the price as the TC, and ammo is also half the price. If I were going with a .308, I would want to spend a bit more on a 700 or a savage model 10.
    That pretty much sums it up. I wouldn't buy the Thompson just because i don't know if has the aftermarket support that a savage or a remington would. A lot of the savage parts from there main line guns carry over to their edge line, so I've heard anyways.

    My votes on the edge, unless you want to step up into REM 700 or savage model 10 territory.

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    I am a big fan of .308, if you were looking soley at your life depending on just one shot I would say go .308, but for plinking/cheap ammo I would say go with the .223. Of course reloading either round, especially if you cast your own bullets, will reduce costs considerably if you have a good source of brass.
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    Let's throw another gun into the equation: The Howa 1500 in .308. $580, including a decent scope. A bolt and trigger that are some of the sweetest I've felt, that Hogue rubber stock, blued action. Gonna have to do some googling to check on reported accuracy and problems, but IIRC this is the same gun Weatherby imports/imported as the Vanguard. Heavier than either of the other two, but not objectionably so. Only real downside is that it's made in Japan, and I'd like to buy American. Not Remington, though... I've been increasingly unimpressed with their quality as of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Williams View Post
    Let's throw another gun into the equation: The Howa 1500 in .308. $580, including a decent scope. A bolt and trigger that are some of the sweetest I've felt, that Hogue rubber stock, blued action. Gonna have to do some googling to check on reported accuracy and problems, but IIRC this is the same gun Weatherby imports/imported as the Vanguard. Heavier than either of the other two, but not objectionably so. Only real downside is that it's made in Japan, and I'd like to buy American. Not Remington, though... I've been increasingly unimpressed with their quality as of late.
    I priced a Weatherby for $450.

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    It has a factory tuned and adjustable trigger. It also comes with a written accuracy guarantee! For the money, I have found nothing comparable!
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    From what I understand, Howa's are some of the finest shooting guns you can buy for the money. I've never shot one, but I was considering one at one point, and was asking around. The guys I talked to couldn't say enough about them.

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