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    Shortest .308 barrel length for 1000 yds?

    What is the shortest barrel length for a .308 bolt gun to keep the accracy and still be able to shoot at 1000 yds?

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    16". There is a thread over at arf-com where some snipes were ringing steel at a a mile with a 16" obr and the same glass you have up for sale, if I remember correctly.

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    My SWAG is in the 20" range. Maybe shorter based on the skill and ability of the shooter. On average I would say the 20" mark would be the shortest.
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    it depends on the accuracy your wishing to obtain. hypothetically saying 1moa accuracy id say 20 inches
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    Just buy a .416 and ring steel at 2500 yards.

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    Im getting my Remington PSS back, thinking of getting the TAC-21 Chassis, using my PRS stock with monopod, and putting my bushnell atop. I was just thinking about having the barrel cut and threaded for a muzzle device of some sort, i know you lose some velocity per inch, but i just want the shortest possible barrel (mainly for weight) without losing accuracy or even the possibility to shoot out to 1000 some day. I will probly never shoot over 5-600, but i dont want to limit it. But at the same time id hate to cut my PSS barrel, so should i just buy a 20" acc barrel and leave my pss at 26"? Or would i be better off getting the chassis, and getting a barreled action for it and just leave my pss alone completely?

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    I would leave it at 26 if you are going for all out accuracy.
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    The real answer depends. What are you going to do with this rifle? If its going to be a strictly bench gun I'm say 26 ish. If it's going to be a multi-purpose gun, then maybe in the 20-22" length.

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    I have a relative that has a 700 that AJ Brown did for him. It's 16", and it will do its job at 1k if you can do yours. I asked AJ about the length issue, he said folks @ Crane tested various lengths extensively and that 16" is as short as you can go and still reach out there.
    This particular rifle was trimmed for a Gemtech can, so the short length was nice and pretty much understood that with sub sonic loads, you aren't gonna get the 1k, which is fine, because he wanted hush at the cost of several hundred yards. Still, it will do it with full powered loads, so there is flexibility

    I love that rifle. It's a fine thing.

    but if you don't plan on using a can, might as well leave it? May be overhead, but why not save a few bucks.

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    My idea is for a multi purpose rifle, as light as possible, without sacrificing accuracy or the ability to shoot to 1000.

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    So according to that i can go 18-20" with possibly better accuracy, minimal velocity loss, and still reach 1000. im thinking 19" threaded. that way i can put a muzzle device. i may just try to find another barrel to cut on that way i dont ruin my pss 26" bbl.

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    26" barrels are a waste of powder for .308 unless you are working up a specialty load. If you are serious about 1000 yards I'd stick with 20-22". There's a difference between what is possible to do and what can be achieved readily. If 1000 yards is a "might want to play someday" and weight and maneuverability are more of a concern then 16-18" will serve you just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shibumiseeker View Post
    26" barrels are a waste of powder for .308 unless you are working up a specialty load. If you are serious about 1000 yards I'd stick with 20-22". There's a difference between what is possible to do and what can be achieved readily. If 1000 yards is a "might want to play someday" and weight and maneuverability are more of a concern then 16-18" will serve you just fine.
    Word. Much better said than what I was trying to babble about.

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    Well let me ask this, i plan on upgrading to a timney trigger, and changing out the stock to the tac 21 chassis system, should i just leave my pss alone, and just buy a barreled action?

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    Seriously dude? You're asking us if you should modify one, or buy both? Duh, buy both!

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    Lol. i figured youd say that. where can i get a good barreled action? or is a factory setup sufficient?

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    I swear I'm not trolling for him, to the contrary, he is a competitor of mine in the camo thing...sort of. We are on good terms concerning that, and that's another threads worth, but it shows I gain nothing from the advice that follows.
    Why not give a j brown a call down in Bloomfield? The man is the rifle equivalent of the Japanese sword makers. I have had the pleasure of shooting 3 rifles made by him: 1)suppressed .308 2)suppressed .300 win mag 3) Tac 50 "suppressed" (or as close as you can, anyway) and they were all $#@!ing exquisite weapons, right out if the box.
    He could address every single concern you've listed thus far with much more authority than most of us. His resume does the talking.
    It will cost you but you will get exactly what you paid for and you will cream when you shoot the rifle. He can bring the whole package together including, glass, stock ( AI included) trigger bolts and he can get barrels we cant and even dev a load for your rifle. He can tell you the what's and the whys, if you care to know. He is subtle and quiet, but if you listen..and he likes you, you'll learn some very cool things. He's a Hoosier, he's one of ours and what he does boarders on art. Its going to be vastly harder if not impossible to pull off anything close, DYI.
    Shooters better than I can overcome a marginal rifle and compensate for the short comings, which is amazing in its own right. But why not rule out as many variables as possible and hone yourself from the ground up? I mean this generally speaking...not saying anything about you as I shooter, have no idea.

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    I would chop your existing rifle and have it threaded, but that's just me. As long as you know you don't have a dud, it should be great.

    As far as other options, you could start with a surgeon action or similar and build one from the ground up. Or you could have a Smith build you one, or build yours up.

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    For the .308 Winchester, or any other .30 caliber round, I would not really want to go shorter than the 20" that other posters have stated. JMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerpuller65 View Post
    For the .308 Winchester, or any other .30 caliber round, I would not really want to go shorter than the 20" that other posters have stated. JMHO.
    20" 300blk.....hmmm....no


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